7.26.2005

Abortion, Politics and Service

In my last post, I discussed the unnaturalness of abortion, of a woman getting to the place of making a "choice" to terminate the life of her child. It is important to remember, in the context of this debate, that victims of rape and incest comprise less than 1% of all abortions in any given year. My previous remarks about the lies and the deception of a woman's soul and identity were not directed to victims of such an abhorrent violation.

I believe that one of our greatest weaknesses in Christian and conservative circles has been our relative absence in the area of serving and meeting the needs of victims of rape, incest and domestic violence (among other social ills). Honestly, it's a significant part of the reason I left my career as a teacher to work in the non-profit world.

I think it was Tip O'Neil who said that "All politics is local." That is a true statement. However, I also believe that at its core all politics is service. As we debate these critically important issues of the day, let us strive towards greater measures of serving and extending love and life to the hurting who surround every one of us.

God bless!

17 Comments:

At 7/26/2005 02:13:00 AM, Blogger Mark said...

Another point can be made about the victims of rape. Most rape victims are so traumatized by the rape, that something chemical goes on in their body,actually preventing pregnancy from occurring. Of course, you will never hear that from Planned Parenthood.

 
At 7/26/2005 02:34:00 AM, Blogger Lores Rizkalla said...

Excellent point, Mark.

 
At 7/26/2005 03:21:00 AM, Blogger Poison Pero said...

You are such a welcome voice Lores.

I'm usually so hard edged, as are most others I read (4 Row's is pretty tame too), that I need a softer voice to keep me in check.

Sort of the Dennis Prager of the Blogosphere.

 
At 7/26/2005 03:36:00 AM, Blogger Lores Rizkalla said...

Poison Pero, I think your comments are great and appropriate. Thank you, though, for the compliment.

And, thank you for your response to Anon in the last post. I was just telling a friend that I was so proud of the way my community of bloggers demonstrated true compassionate conservatism!

 
At 7/26/2005 03:37:00 AM, Anonymous Clayton Bell said...

I normally don't go this direction, but as a Christian I believe so strongly in what Lores is saying. Many Christians have made the terrible mistake (and I am here to appologize to anyone this has happened to...I'm sorry) of preaching down or at the person/situation that does not line up with their beliefs instead of loving someone in their situation and then helping them come out of the muck and mire of dispair and hopelessness with the power of a living God. And if you don't believe me, you can check my sources:

1 Peter 2:15- "For it is God's will that by doing good you should silence the ignorant talk of foolish men."

James 1:27- "Pure and lasting religion in the sight of God our Father means that we must care for orphans and widows in their troubles, and refuse to let the world corrupt us."

James 2:1- "My dear brothers and sisters, how can you claim that you have faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ if you favor some people more than others?"

James 2:17- "So you see, it isn't enough just to have faith. Faith that doesn't show itself by good deeds is no faith at all – it is dead and useless."

I try not to use scriptures here because some of you might not believe in the Bible, but I wanted to establish that it is the job of the church to BOTH preach the power and to demonstrate it, not to pick one or the other. Have a great night everyone...

 
At 7/26/2005 03:42:00 AM, Blogger Lores Rizkalla said...

Very well stated, Clayton.

 
At 7/26/2005 05:04:00 AM, Anonymous aj said...

Very well said!

One of my original debating points on abortion is to have someone take the one second (or one minute) test when it comes to this issue.

Have them painstakingly go through this line of questioning in their mind. While a woman is in labor should it be ok by law to have an abortion on demand at that time. 99.9 % of everyone would say no. Now step back literally one second at a time, all the way to conception if necessary and ask for each one second interval should it now be okay by law to have an abortion on demand. This potentially very time-consuming process will determine exactly where you stand on abortion.

I was on a talk show here in Colorado with a pro-choice 'conservative' and I started this line of questioning. He finally gave up and said abortion should not be allowed when the unborn looks like a child according to him. I asked him, "What about one second before that?"... he had no answer.

 
At 7/26/2005 05:07:00 AM, Blogger Lores Rizkalla said...

AJ, that is a great point! What talk show were you on?

 
At 7/26/2005 05:20:00 AM, Anonymous aj said...

Gunny Bob Newman here in Denver on 850am KOA. He's a retired 20 year veteran of the US Marine Corps. His show website is here - http://www.850koa.com/shows/newman.html

 
At 7/26/2005 07:39:00 AM, Blogger Danielle said...

Lores-Your words carry so much truth and wisdom. I wish more could read what you have to say. I look forward to reading your blogs and sharing them with others. Thank you for being so honest. :-)

 
At 7/26/2005 08:14:00 AM, Blogger web_loafer said...

All humanity is but
An opportunity to know
Our Creator,
I doubt that the one who
Gave life to all, would want
To have anything to do with
Someone who aborted, or neglected
The life He created.
The man who abandons a woman because
She is with his child, is scum.
If that abandonment leads to an
Abortion, he is a murderer.

 
At 7/26/2005 04:56:00 PM, Blogger Layman said...

IF Roe v. Wade is ever overturned, or at least rolled back, Christians are going to have to revise their game plan. Then they will have to deal with the much more complicated task of actually considering how to legislatie in this arena. It will not be as simple as saying abortion is murder, conservatives will have to propose a legislative scheme that does something about it. And I am skeptical there is support even among pro-lifers of treating mothers and daughters as murderers.

Questions will include:

Do you criminzalize abortion? If so, for the mother and the abortionist? What should the punishment be? Should the punishment be the same for the doctor and the mother?

Will such punishment merely drive the practice underground without signficantly reducing the number of abortions? I think this could be a real issue given how many people have become convinced that this is a constitutional right. Groups like NARAL and Planned Parenthood and Emily's List are militant and are not simply going to give up. I expect that there may be widespread and sophsticated underground abortion mills, as well as efforts to transport women across state lines to receive abortions in less restrictive states.

And, in light of Lores' post, would the law treat the reason for seeking abortion differently? If it was the result of rape, does the state really want to impose additional criminal punishment?

There is a lot to think about and the answers are not, IMO, simple ones.

 
At 7/26/2005 05:26:00 PM, Blogger Lores Rizkalla said...

Layman, this is why we need more lawyers like you out there to help us all walk through the multitude of difficult practical questions related to this politically and emotionally charged issue.

 
At 7/27/2005 04:40:00 AM, Blogger Mark said...

Lores, tell my good friend Pero that i am not tame, just respectful. That way I can chastise the liberals for being disrespectful and they can't counter attack by saying I am the same.

 
At 7/27/2005 04:53:00 AM, Blogger Lores Rizkalla said...

Respect is the key, Mark. We have to be different. I'll be sure to tell Pero ;)

 
At 7/28/2005 04:51:00 AM, Blogger Weekend Fisher said...

Mark M - I have no idea whether what you say is true, that the trauma of rape may interfere with pregnancy. But I know someone who was pregnant by rape, met another one on this blog in a related post. The fact that it's rare doesn't change the fact that it happens. If we want to keep the "compassion" in "compassionate conservative", we can't sweep it under the rug. We have to figure out what our response is when it actually does happen, not hide behind the fact that it's rare.

 
At 7/28/2005 07:44:00 PM, Anonymous KO said...

What has been lacking in Christians,in the Church, and in politics to meet the needs of hurting people in our society is the message of redemption. Politics and government can offer programs and assistance that reflect redemption, but ultimately the areas we are dealing with (abortion, rape, divorce, aids, etc.) are issues of the soul. That is where the Church must come in. That is the area where it has fallen so short.

We are all "pro-choice" at heart: we want the freedom to choose what we want to choose and not be bothered in that choosing. We are all "pro-life": we all want a good, happy, fulfilled life. I have always been bothered by those labels in the abortion argument because people have always been able to choose whatever they want. Of course a woman can do whatever she wants with her body, but to what consequence? Of course a man can as well, and taken to the extreme we have cases of rape, incest, domestic violence.

So, for victims of these tragic acts, programs can offer grief counseling, the law can put criminals in prison, local governments can enforce strict sentencing so that justice is served. But where are the Christians who not only offer a message of redemption in these circumstances, but are living a life of redemption so that perhaps another life would be transformed to not rape, to not abort, to not abuse?

Until then I am afraid we will all live under the consequences of our "pro-choice" life. And as Dr. Phil would say, "How's that workin' for you?"

 

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