Quote of the Day

"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose."
--Jim Elliott
I'd like your feedback today. Your thoughts? I'll give my perspective at the end of the day.


At 8/04/2005 05:40:00 PM, Anonymous Jets said...

It's hard to really comment on this knowing the story behind the quote and how he would really live it out. I will say it's one thing that most of us would have a very hard time coming even close to living up to.

Thank you for sharing it and making me think for a few minutes and I look forward to your perspective.

At 8/04/2005 05:42:00 PM, Blogger mlwhitt said...

I take it that he was talking about giving his life (something he can not keep). Correct me if I am wrong but Jim Elliott was a South American Missionary so I think he was clearly referring to giving his life in order to spread the Word.

At 8/04/2005 05:46:00 PM, Blogger mlwhitt said...

Opps, hit publish before I was done...

I believe that you could look at it his willingness to give up his life in to gain a closer fellowship with God by his ministry.

At 8/04/2005 06:20:00 PM, Blogger Doug said...

Given the compression of all epigrammatic statements, which is inversely related to the number of ways in which those statements can be interpreted, I think this one is difficult to argue with, regardless of the context.

If Jim was talking about the Gospel, fine. One could take this to mean a quality like love, which one "cannot" (meaning, "should not") keep in order to gain love in return. Or, as the Beatles put it: "And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make."

Or what one gives may be different from what one gains -- give (up) your (overly compulsive) material desires in order to gain wisdom -- or, as the Beatles said, "Money can't buy you love." Or wisdom. Or happiness.

No, I didn't plan to use Lennon/McCartney as my citations; it just occurred to me as I typed! :)

Interestingly, Materialism doesn't necessarily lead to "materialism," in the vulgar sense (pun intended). I see that as a touchpoint between theistic and nontheistic views -- the unbridled market is an amoral (not immoral) force which can sometimes lead to good things, sometimes to bad, but the ethical decision is not determined by the force itself -- the free market. (Which almost no one really wants -- a truly FREE market; hence "marketing," and the use of "market" as a verb, which is really an undermining of free choice in the marketplace.)

Hence, the tension I see between social and fiscal conservatives -- totally unbridled markets give rise to, say, violent video games (just to use one example), or rampant pornography.

It's a tension that exists particularly, but not uniquely, on the right.

Anyway, I've strayed off-topic!

Here's a quote I plan to live up to:

"Quarrel not at all. No man [or woman] resolved to make the most of himself [or herself] can spare time for personal contention. Still less can he [or she] afford to take all the consequences, including the vitiating of his temper and loss of self-control." -- Abraham Lincoln, Republican.

At 8/04/2005 09:34:00 PM, Anonymous KO said...

Jim Elliott's quote speaks to a lost concept in today's society: sacrifice. We all believe there are things worth living for, but how many of us would die for our principles, or lay our life down for another to know freedom or lay our life down that another may live?

I think, obviously, of our troops overseas who are laying down what they cannot keep, their own lives, to gain what they cannot lose, honor and dignity. Others will know freedom because of their sacrifice.

I think of Todd Beemer and the others on flight 93 who gave of their lives that others would live, and did it without regret (seemingly at least by his last words heard by his wife "Let's roll").

There are moms, single and married, who lay their lives down to raise a generation who will be world changers. They leave a legacy that cannot be lost or robbed. There are fathers and husbands who stay and see their committments through.

We all have made sacrifices, big and small, but how many of us do it without complaint or expectation of recognition? I hope that the selflessness, vision, love for others and a trust in God that Jim Elliott returns to our nation.

At 8/04/2005 11:58:00 PM, Anonymous KO said...

..correction on that last line:
"that Jim Elliot had"

At 8/05/2005 03:56:00 AM, Blogger Mark said...

I think it dovetails into what Jesus said. "No greater love hath one man, than to lay down his life for his friends."


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