9.05.2005

Katrina Quotes

I thought I'd share some quotes I found this weekend related to the hurricane Katrina disaster.

I found these on Michael Whitt's blog. They came from a BBC report.

"Katrina has wrecked not only the physical corporality of civilization. Now there are unmistakable signs in the hurricane's aftermath of the collapse of ordered society. Communication has become virtually impossible. There is no power, no fuel, no food. And looters are at work. This in the United States, the most powerful nation that has ever been." - Australia's The Daily Telegraph

" Every natural disaster comes in two waves. First the wind and rain arrives, then the political storm." - Denmark's Kristeligt Dagblad

"Not even the monstrous Katrina will drag the USA into recession." - Prague's Hospodarske Noviny

"There must be truth to the adage that when the United States of America sneezes, the whole world will catch its cold." - South Africa's Mercury

And, on a more practical note... This is from Laura Ingraham's website.

From listener Jim M., Yuba City, CA: "American businesses should immediately start posting job opportunities to Katrina victims. Forget putting Katrina victims in camps where they will be idle? Not a good idea! Instead, put out a nationwide call for employers to offer a job (or jobs) where refugees could seek housing and be employed. Set up an internet list of skills so prospective employers can receive a resume and interview by phone. There could be a government tax credit to employers willing to hire those displaced by Katrina. Let's get these folks settled in decent housing and employment relative to their skills that might be permanent and free of subsidy."

Just some things to think about.

God bless and happy Labor Day.

p.s. My brother's wedding was WONDERFUL. It would have been a special time regardless of the circumstances. But, all the bad news lately, made it all the more joyous.

23 Comments:

At 9/05/2005 04:18:00 PM, Blogger Doug said...

Look how nonpolitical the WH is being!

 
At 9/05/2005 04:36:00 PM, Blogger Mark said...

(sigh) The White House itself does nothing but stand there looking impressive. The inhabitants of the White House are politicians. What else could you expect from them?

That said, Why don't you get your news from a more moderate newspaper instead of possibly the most radically leftist newspaper on the planet?

Of course they would say that.

 
At 9/05/2005 05:23:00 PM, Blogger Amy Middleton said...

Isn't it crazy how catastrophic events bring out the best and the worst in everyone, you can really begin to see reality, no matter how sad it is. Have you heard any of the quotes on people pulling the race card yet? Just wondering if you had any comments. (Lores, now that I have joined the blog ring you might actually hear from me now! haha)

 
At 9/05/2005 05:58:00 PM, Anonymous KO said...

In regards to employers offering victims of Katrina jobs, that is an excellent idea. I heard this weekend on the radio that Papa Johns Pizza, one in particular that is next to the Astrodome, has offered thousands of delivery positions open to these people effective immediately.

I am curious to see who will take those offers. I know this will be a quenching statement, and I don't mean to be cynical in light of this tragedy, but it seems all we are hearing is "what will the government do for me? Why isn't the government doing this, and doing that...?" My question is why have the local authorities not stepped up to their leadership roles? I hear them complaining too and do not see a lot of stepping up to the plate from them.

National guard have been sent in because of the extreme lawlessness. People crying out for food and water could also be seen stealing televisions. These are behaviors that began on day one of this tragedy. Today I read that contractors coming in to repair the levies were shot at by civilians. The list goes on....

I am awaiting eagerly to hear of people rising up. People who will take jobs that are offered them. People who will show compassion to one another. Extended family around the country who will interrupt their own lives to take care of and take in their relatives affected by this. I do not mean this in a "get over it and get on with it" kind of way. It's just so tiring to hear all the blaming, the overboard entitlement, even some reps. from the Black caucus bringing race into this situation.

Come on! The bottom line is this is a huge catastrophe, one that no one could have fully prepared for. No one. It has happened. It is horrifying. We can recover and rebuild, but we cannot change what has happened. We can't go back an undo it. So, I pray that we can move forward, even if it is slow, and not spin our wheels in blaming or political bashing or in abandoning all self-government. There will be plenty of time for assessment and how to be more prepared later. As money and assistance is pouring in, and it is thankfully, let's pray for courage and resolve for these victims. Even if there is only a shred of hope day by day, as opposed to instant solutions, which so many of us seem to be demanding, let us all embrace that shred of hope and move forward.

 
At 9/05/2005 07:19:00 PM, Blogger William said...

I'm a black male (as stated before), and it is upsetting that the issue has become a race issue. Even Kanye West (black hip-hop artist) said, "Bush hates black people and he sent the troops to NO to shoot us." Now, I must say that it is quite aggravating to have such uniformed voices speaking on my behalf.

Yet, I am compelled to see the logic in many of these peoples' arguments. Some points made are valid, others are just angry Black people trying to cause controversy. My stance is this: If it's not a black issue, then prove it to me. Show me that these people will receive continual immediate aid as well as assistance to get back on their feet. Prove me wrong in this one Bush! I don't want it to be a black issue. But dang, republicans sure do make it difficult to believe otherwise.

 
At 9/05/2005 08:37:00 PM, Anonymous KO said...

It seems as though those who want to say this is a racial issue for Bush will say this is a racial issue no matter what. There is a race related issue to this situation in that the demographic of New Orleans is largely Black, and as reported, largely poor. So, if help does not come in the way people are looking for (which, again, what are the standards for non-racial help vs. racial help?) does that mean that Bush does not like ALL Black people, or just the poor Black people? Maybe it'll mean he doesn't like Black people that live near coastal communities or in Southern regions. How will we know if he thinks rich Black people are O.K.?

I still stick to my original statement that the local leadership, who is a Black mayor, could be doing better himself. Maybe he's not doing his best because secretly he has something against White people and this is his chance to make them look bad. It's all so ridiculous!!

The point is, regardless of race, color, whatever, (hopefully you recognize my sarcasm to make a point in my above statements) people are doing what they can. There is only so much you can know and do to begin to take care of devastation that has occurred at such a catastrophic level. Yes, many leaders on all levels can be doing better, and I believe they will with each day.

What concerns me is that the weather bureau predicted 3 cat 3-5 hurricanes for this season for those regions. Katrina has been #1, and hurricane season goes through December. So, we'd all better figure out what really matters in all this soon.

 
At 9/05/2005 09:31:00 PM, Blogger Jamie Dawn said...

I'm taking a LOT of time and doing my own research into local, state & fed responsibliity.
I feel I can't depend on politically based news organizations or blogs, because their point of view is always skewed. For example, all of Doug's links are always to things that support his point of view, when there are ample links that support that responsibility lies at all levels, from the mayor on up.
I don't want a one-sided picture. I want a comprehensive overview that shows me the truth, regardless of who ends up taking some heat.
I want to know what mistakes were made and by whom.
Already, I'm finding that failures were not made along political lines.
What I'm saying is, it won't be just Dem or just Repub leaders who made errors along the way.
This isn't about political party failures.
So far, I've read the New Orleans disaster response plan as well as the state of LA's disaster response plan (and it was LONG.)
My next step will be to read the response plans and responsibilities of FEMA, etc... (all those agencies that come under federal responsibility.) When and how do the feds take control from the state? Does the state ask them and then relinquish power to them? Is it in one fell swoop or little by little?
After I do that, I want to know exactly what happened as this hurricane unfolded. There was ample time for preparedness, so what steps were take at every level? Did each level of leadership do its part before, during and currently?
When the mayor called for a mandatory evac, what was done as a result on a local level? What was done at the state level to carry this mandatory evac out?
I've read it was the Pres that encouraged the mayor to call for a mandatory evac. I don't know if this is true or just more rumor to try and make Bush look good. I want to know!! If it is true, than the mayor should be grateful to him.
When did the governor relinquish operational power to the feds? Was it all at once or bit by bit?
If the feds were in charge since Tuesday and therefore the governor was no longer making decisions at that point, then the feds carry the brunt of responsibility.
I've heard that power was not transferred at that time, so I am unclear about who was really making the decisions and when.
In the LA plan, it says that the state will be assisted by the feds upon request. I need to know how and when all that occurred. When did Governor Blanco sign the decision that reversed the power to the feds being assisted by the state?
When & where did the feds drop the ball? They swooped in like mighty angels on Saturday. Why did that not happen sooner? It's silly to think the fed gov't just ignored this problem for days. Somewhere, something happened that slowed the response time. I will work until I know the truth about it.
Lastly, are Mississippi and Alabama getting the help they need?
Sorry this was sooo long. I don't expect my questions to be answered here at this blog.
I'm justing writing my current thoughts.
I will find the answers myself.

 
At 9/05/2005 09:41:00 PM, Blogger void said...

As always an intelligent post. I'm happy the wedding was "wondeful".

 
At 9/05/2005 09:41:00 PM, Blogger Weekend Fisher said...

Writing from Houston -- #1 choice of relocation for Katrina evacuees, 100,000+ evacuees in the city and climbing by the day.

There are already the beginnings of websites coordinating jobs. For one example, check out khou.com (CBS affiliate in Houston). One of the other network local affiliates is coordinating a housing website. Many N.O. companies are relocating headquarters to Houston -- office space has been coordinated for them -- so they can hire their own employees back and keep their businesses going. Many of the skills brought by the workers from N.O. (truckers and longshoremen in particular) will be in high demand in the Port of Houston, especially as we try to compensate for the loss of the Port of N.O. as best we can.

It's been less than a week. Some evacuees do already have jobs. Those are not simply "the most ambitious" but also the least injured, least dehydrated, spent fewest days clinging to a roof in 95 degree weather and no drinking water, already found a few changes of clothes, and have all their family members accounted for -- so they can afford to turn to long-term issues.

Those who have any money are putting down contracts on homes. But how many of you could withstand your house and car being totaled while still owing on them?

I have to plead for you all to at least believe that those of us down here working on this -- possibly largest refugee relocation effort in U.S. history -- are actually doing our best. It will take a week or two for everybody to find their loved ones, assess what condition their old home is in, and decide which city will be their permanent home. If any choose to hope for the rebuilding of the great & beloved N.O., we in Houston will gladly give them the best refuge we can manage until then. If you want to help, the best ground-based efforts seem to be coming from the Salvation Army and from the Houston Food Bank. The Red Cross is not too bad either.

 
At 9/05/2005 09:57:00 PM, Blogger Weekend Fisher said...

Here are a couple of links that I'd wanted to put with the previous post but had to go find them:

Refugee jobs:

http://www.houstonhurricaneaid.org/jobs.asp

Refugee housing:

http://www.har.com/RealtorsHelp/

 
At 9/05/2005 11:54:00 PM, Blogger mlwhitt said...

Lores, great that the wedding went well. Best of wishes to your brother and his new wife.

Thanks for the nod by the way.

I agree with what you saw on Laura's site. This is going to sound like I am making light of the situation, not meaning but, I thought of a little something we could do to give the able bodied men and women a job,and yet solve another one of our countries problems, illegal immigration. We could form a new government funded citizen patorl madeup of displaced Katrina victims who get paid to patrol the border. I am serious, though it sounds I am sure like I am joking. Talk to you later friend.

 
At 9/06/2005 02:38:00 PM, Blogger Doug said...

Mark! The New York Times is the most radical leftist newspaper on the planet? That would come as a shock to William Safire, David Brooks, Thomas Friedman, Judith Miller -- not to mention the Sulzbergers, who publish it.

Anyway, look at cyberpols -- I try to read everything (NRO to Economist to the BBC to NYT to DemocracyNow! to Znet).

I do, however, agree with your first paragraph.

Also, I found this on the BBC -- Paul Reynolds claims that Bush begged the mayor of NO for a full, mandatory evacuation. I haven't seen this confirmed elsewhere, and it post-dates the PR push (which is to be expected, of course), but it's easily checked up on.

If it's true, I'll adjust my opinion of Bush upward on this issue, of course.

Amy: Plenty of race-card-playing going on. Anne Rice (of Vampire fame) wrote an excellent op-ed piece in the most radically leftist paper on the planet recently. :)

Kudos to Houston!

 
At 9/06/2005 02:43:00 PM, Blogger Doug said...

One other thing -- I don't think I mentioned this (sorry if I did), but Dennis Hastert reportedly said we shouldn't rebuild NO on that site.

He's right. It's geologically untenable. He got shouted down. I agree with him -- it's just not a sustainable site for a city of that size.

Check out John McPhee's article from 1987 in The New Yorker on this, back before this was all politicized.

 
At 9/06/2005 03:09:00 PM, Blogger Doug said...

Hi, Jamie: I just wanted to say that I'm glad you're finding stuff out on your own. That's the only way to do it.

One question: Four years after 9/11, how is this level of disarray possible, regardless of the cause of the disaster? Whatever you find, and I want to know -- can you post the links to those plans either here or on cyberpols, please? -- there needs to be an answer to that question.

The EU is sending aid to us, and within 24 hours of the request. (Or, more precisely, the positive response to their offer to help.) How do they do it so much better -- fires in Spain/Portugal, flooding in Central and Eastern Europe...etc.?

I think the answer you'll likely find will challenge notions of laissez-faire this country has adopted since the mid-'70s.

Good government -- well-funded, well-run governemnt -- is actually not the Norquistian enemy it's been made out to be.

 
At 9/06/2005 03:13:00 PM, Blogger Doug said...

The governor of Louisiana is apparently the sole source of the Bush-call rumor/fact. Found an AP story from 8/28 on this.

If true, Bush deserves credit for that. If not true, it doesn't change the fact that Nagin should have acted sooner, which I think I said -- but maybe on another blog (my own or Thornblog).

 
At 9/06/2005 06:40:00 PM, Blogger Layman said...

Weekend Fisher,

Thank you for the information about the relief efforts in Houston. Texas has surely lived up to its state motto, "Friendship." And Houstonians have proved their character once again.

Thank you for all that you are doing for the survivors there.

Chris

 
At 9/06/2005 06:43:00 PM, Blogger Layman said...

Lores,

There has been some flack raised about using the term "refugee." I used it myself when asking my blog readers to send in aid on Blog Relief Day. Jesse Jackson says its racist because it suggests criminality and even Bush says he does not like it.

I find this bizarre and prideful on our part. Refugees are people who have been displaced by extreme circumstances in large numbers. I have never heard it linked with criminality.

In fact, I think that it might be prideful on our part to so readily use the term to describe victims of disasters in Africa or Asia, but somehow think that it cannot be used for Americans.

Any thoughts?

 
At 9/06/2005 06:46:00 PM, Blogger Lores Rizkalla said...

Weekend Fisher,
God bless you for all that you're doing. Thanks for the info. Please keep us posted!

Thank you!

 
At 9/06/2005 06:49:00 PM, Blogger Layman said...

Doug,

The notion that the EU is sending some unspecified level of aid within 24 hours is a ridiculous basis on which to argue that they are better at handling disasters than the United States. That may be true, but you've done nothing to prove that is so.

And count me skeptical when countries like France lose 15,000 people to a heat wave because the French could not be bothered from their vacations on the Med to bother to care for their elderly parents? Nope, it's the government's job afterall, isn't it? But the government was to bloated with beauracry to help:

"Parliament released a harshly worded report blaming the deaths on a complex health system, widespread failure among agencies and health services to coordinate efforts, and chronically insufficient care for the elderly."

And France is not the only European country to suffer, just the most forthcoming about its dead:

"Other European countries hit by the heat have been slower than France to come out with death tolls, but it's clear they also suffered thousands of deaths."

http://www.usatoday.com/weather/news/2003-09-25-france-heat_x.htm

 
At 9/06/2005 09:58:00 PM, Blogger Jamie Dawn said...

Hey all. I'm enjoying a quick blog read of my favorites.
Doug: I'm still in the midst of a lot of reading. I will indeed post links on your site. I've put together a word document to help me keep track of what I'm reading. Overall, it's been eye opening. I'm not on a witch hunt to accuse Dems. I'm on a witch hunt for the truth of ALL that happened.
Also, we are involved with a church sending a semi of goods to Gulfport, MS and also sending teams of people over the next couple of months. I'm so impressed by how Amercians are pouring out their hearts in tangible ways.

 
At 9/07/2005 04:37:00 AM, Blogger Lores Rizkalla said...

layman/chris: i've heard the discussion surrounding the use of "refugee." i agree with you. i know that it has been hard to me to hear it in reference to Americans. however, it is accurate. and, it is, as you've said, simply a reflection of our pride.

 
At 9/07/2005 05:12:00 AM, Blogger Lores Rizkalla said...

amy,
welcome!!! so glad you've finally entered the blogosphere. we're glad to have you.

honestly, i'm so tired of the race card being pulled that i haven't wanted to dignify the accusation with a post about it.

i think it's ridiculous. when it's all said and done, i believe there will be plenty of responsibility to go around. but, honestly, one of the the key players who dropped the ball was the mayor, who just happens to be african american. if this is a race issue, then something just isn't adding up.

 
At 9/07/2005 02:34:00 PM, Blogger Doug said...

layman: Good point on the heat wave in France; not to mention the recent wave of fires.

 

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